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Master Lock Combination Recovery

Master lock combination recovery
It’s not hard to recover the combination to a combination lock. With three numbers ranging from 0 to 39 there are 64,000 possible combinations and attempting to brute force a solution at 10 seconds per try could take 22 days of non-stop testing. With this technique it will take only 15 minutes without any experience. After you’re successful, it takes less than 10 minutes to crack the combination. I’ve even included a program that will help narrow down the possibilities and make the process quick and painless.

This procedure was designed for Master Lock brand combination locks new and old. The illustration shown to the right illustrates the “slop” in the mechanics of the lock. A combination of 22-10-17 is the same as 22-11-17 or 22-9-17. This makes Master Lock combination recovery a lot easier.

Step 1. Make a list of possible last numbers of the combination.

  • Turn the dial clockwise past zero three times and leave it set to zero.
  • Apply even tension to the metal shackle (U-shaped part) by pulling down if it’s attached to something or pulling up if you’re holding it in your hand. This causes the dial to stick and not turn easily. So, apply just enough tension and turn the dial clockwise until it stops. Note whether it stops right on a number or between two numbers. While still applying tension turn the dial counter-clockwise (left) to find the range.
  • If the range is between two numbers say 17 and 18, record the number as 17.5. If, on the other hand, the range is in the middle of two numbers, say 20.5 and 21.5 record the number as 21. This is the middle of the range. You can rest between numbers; it won’t affect the solution.
  • You can release some tension from the shackle to get past the sticking point to find the next sticking point. Repeat this process until you get to zero.
    HINT: The dial should stick every 3-4 numbers.

Step 2. Find the last number of the combination.

In one complete turn of the dial you should have 12 numbers recorded. 7 of the numbers should be fractions ending in .5 – these can be eliminated. Of the remaining 5 the last number in the combination is the whole number with the unique ending. For example, with my test lock I listed the following numbers:
38, 34.5, 31, 27.5, 24.5, 21, 17.5, 14.5, 11, 7.5, 4.5, 1. removing the fractions and the similar numbers ending in 1 leaves 38, the only number ending in something other than 1.

Step 3. Calculate the possible combinations.

Select the number you found in Step 2 into the Combination Calculator. It will calculate all the possible combinations, 64 in total, much fewer than 64,000, and it usually takes, on average, only 32 tries to find the correct combination.

Hint: And in case you forgot, it’s always twice past zero turning clockwise (right) to the first number, once past zero to the second number counter-clockwise (left), and finally clockwise (right again) to the last number.

Good Luck.

Discussion

190 Responses to “Master Lock Combination Recovery”

  1. 38
    35
    31.5
    28.5
    25
    21.5
    18
    14.5
    11.5
    8
    4.5
    1.5

    I’m not sure which numbers I’m supposed to take out out of the whole numbers I found. I’ve done this a few times and still can’t unlock it.

    Posted by Erin | August 31, 2016, 11:43 PM
  2. All my daughter could remember is that the combo had a low number in the middle. After looking at different tutorials, I kept coming up with 36 as the last number. The possibles table was a great tool. Was able to open after about 10 tries.
    Thanks!!

    Posted by Susan Wilson | August 22, 2016, 8:12 PM
  3. Well, it’s faster than trying all combinations, but just trying to figure out the “slight pressure” on the shackle has been ridiculous. Probably faster to just send in a lost combination form and wait the 4 to 6 weeks.

    Posted by CW | August 21, 2016, 10:03 AM
  4. Yippee! I wanted to give this lock to my granddaughter for her work locker but couldn’t remember combination. It took a bit of time but once I realized how much tension I needed to feel the stops I hit my numbers. I had a few numbers that could have been either fractions or whole numbers but since I knew there were 7 fractions I crossed those off and was able to figure out my last number. After that it took about 5 minutes. Thx

    Posted by Gewlia | August 6, 2016, 8:14 AM
  5. I have a Master Glo lock which is similar to the Sphero and has a serial number on the back that starts with 800. The last number has to be 33, since that is the largest sticking point by far ranging from 31-34 and I have read that Spheros usually have one wide point that is the correct number. However, all the combinations I have tried using the calculator have failed. Any suggestions? Is there a different algorithm for the other two number sets? Thanks!

    Posted by Dan Schoen | June 16, 2016, 1:54 PM
  6. My Numbers are 2.5, 6, 9.5, 12.5, 16, 19.5, 22.5, 26, 29.5, 32.5, 36, 39.5….Please guide what will be the last number..Thanks

    Posted by Waqas | May 15, 2016, 6:28 AM
    • One of your fractional numbers could be in error. Try again as one will be a whole number and that’s the one you want. If I had to guess I would try 2.

      Posted by Martina Kolova | May 16, 2016, 8:55 PM
  7. Beautiful… got my lock back!

    Posted by CJ | April 30, 2016, 10:34 AM
  8. Worked like a charm only 48 tries

    Posted by Joe D | April 10, 2016, 2:33 PM
  9. I tried your calculator without any success. Just now, I found a note with the real combination on it, and it is not included in the calculator results. Clearly, Master Lock has updated their algorithms.

    Posted by Anna | January 29, 2016, 11:58 AM
    • I too have a Master Combination lock with the code 35-16-1 not in the solution set 🙁

      Posted by jason | April 7, 2016, 11:45 PM
      • This is because 35-16-1 is the same combination as 36-16-1, 35-17-1, 34-16-2 and many other combinations up to 2 numbers away from the original. The mechanism is not very precise and allows for this variance to happen although the degree of variance differs from lock to lock.

        Posted by Mike Molony | April 8, 2016, 9:35 AM
  10. My master lock has both a dial for combinations and a key hole in the back. This method doesn’t seem to work for this type of master locks.

    Posted by Vincent | January 18, 2016, 4:16 PM
  11. Worked like a champ! Figured out the last number and I knew there was a 30# in there somewhere so that narrowed it down a bit. Took a minute then pop!

    Thanks!

    Posted by Timmy | January 9, 2016, 9:36 AM
  12. Sweet!!! Just used this to open by old college Master Lock from the 80’s that I found up in the attic. I can now use it at the gym. Love it, no need to toss my ole favorite after all these years.

    Posted by Jay Johnston | January 7, 2016, 1:51 PM
  13. I can not figure this out. My numbers are 38, 33.5, 30.5,27,23.5,20.5,17,13.5,10,7,3.5

    Posted by Kd | January 4, 2016, 1:40 PM
    • I would say that 10 is your last number. Imagine that 38 is actually 37 and that would cancel the numbers ending in 7. You’d also have cancelled the decimal numbers and so 10 would be your best bet.

      Posted by DA | February 7, 2016, 11:04 AM
  14. Could you please explain why the “bands” of unused solutions on the combination page? (e.g. my last number is 5, and the possible solution space I have calculated are:

    First Number: 1,5,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37
    Second Number: 3,7,11,15,19,23,27,31,35,39

    But in the “combination calculation” page, it omits the first two lines (1-3-5, 1-7-5, 1-11-5… 1-39-5 and 5-3-5, 5-7-5, 5-11-5, … 5-39-5) as well as having diagonal empty boxes in the solution space.

    This seems intuitive to me, but I’m not certain why these possible solutions are removed.

    Thanks! Just trying to learn.

    Posted by Dan Z. | December 23, 2015, 4:32 AM
  15. On the right side I thought I had remembered the first two numbers and using your method I found the last number and the combinations showed 1 the transposed the first two digits I had remembered. Long story short I tried that and it took less than 5 minutes thank you

    Posted by H. N . Lucas | December 23, 2015, 2:10 AM
  16. someone locked my lock at school and I cant try to do this because it will take to long and all my suff is in my locker!!!! help!

    Posted by Grace | November 27, 2015, 10:53 AM
  17. Thanks for the info! Worked after 35 tries. Just followed the steps very carefully and was shocked! It worked!! Thanks again….

    Posted by code cracker | November 25, 2015, 6:52 PM
  18. Need help with this lock. Here are my numbers.
    0, 3.5, 7, 10, 13.5, 17, 20, 23.5, 27, 30, 33.5, 37

    My son thought the last number was 39 but that isn’t working. Help, please?!?

    Posted by NeedLotsofHelp | November 11, 2015, 8:12 PM
    • You may want to try 0 as the last number. This may be an older, well used lock and the mechanics could be a bit worn. Let me know if this solves the problem. Good Luck.

      Posted by Mike Molony | November 11, 2015, 9:40 PM
    • I have similar numbers to you, and depending on how I interpreted if a number was a fraction or a whole, I ended up with either 37 or 0 as the final number. 37 and 0 were my only definite whole numbers, the rest were borderline.

      I reccomend revisiting all your whole numbers and pull the shackle hard while you juggle the dial within each sticking point. When doing this on your 3rd number, you should feel no resistance on the dial even when pulling very hard on the shackle. You will find resistance at the dial when you do this at all other stopping points. I read this tip years ago on a different website, and I don’t know if it holds true 100% of the time, but it works for both my locks.

      Posted by NotQuiteMasterLocker | November 27, 2015, 1:53 PM
  19. Sorry bother but i don’t know it’s me but confuse on this abit and I don’t know which can b the third number..tried but stuck

    0,3,6.5,10,13,16.5,19.5,23,26.5,30,33,36.5

    Old blue master lock.

    Thanks hope u can help

    Posted by mery | October 27, 2015, 9:53 PM
  20. Well, well, thank you!
    I found my pretty green “hardened” MASTERlock I bought ages ago in college, but jumbling lost the little slip of paper with the combination code on it.
    I followed the code-cracking instructions on it, and about 3/4 the way through the potential solution space, found the code!
    I Tested it twice, it definitely is the code.
    Thank you so much!

    Posted by Heavyporker | September 15, 2015, 12:29 PM
  21. Only came up with 10 numbers and they all seemed to be .5’s. So I check again and picked the 1 that came closest. Put that into the calculator, decided to start with the middle row and 6 combo’s later POP. Excellent method. THANKS!

    Posted by H.William | April 22, 2015, 9:35 PM
  22. So I’ve been doing this for years and have never had an issue…until now. I have a Master lock that is not just being stubborn…it’s being downright impossible. Brand new, never been used, but my friend threw the packaging (and thus the combination) away like a good little idiot. Anyway, she gave it to me and I picked out the sticking points, but here’s where it’s weird: nine of the numbers are fractions and the other three numbers all have the same last digit. There’s no wear on the lock, and it is very definite where the sticking points are – no hesitation or unusual movements. The numbers are as follows:

    37.5, 34.5, 30.5, 27.5, 24, 20.5, 17.5, 14, 10.5, 7.5, 4, .5

    Having cracked dozens upon dozens of these locks in the past twenty years, I admit to being stumped by this one. Little pain in the rear. 😛 Any input would be appreciated. Meanwhile…back to the lock.

    Posted by Lynn | February 21, 2015, 4:57 AM
    • Is it the same set of numbers going CCW? Based on the list I’d say the unique 1s digit is the 34.5. Perhaps this lock was a simple one in a million defect.

      I’ve come across 2 I couldn’t crack. One of them was damaged and then 1s digit was definitely a decimal. Garbaged it. The other is a master lock sphere.

      Posted by swimrrr | March 1, 2015, 7:58 AM
    • Don’t know if you have the lock anymore or will see this, but I had the same numbers as you and my code was 4-10-4.

      Posted by Branden | January 5, 2017, 10:03 AM
  23. So I used this to open several locks but I have one that’s being a pain.

    Here’s the numbers:
    39,35.5,32.5, 29,26,22.5,19,15.5,12.5,9,6,2.5
    Eliminate the fractions:
    39,29,26,19,9,6
    Eliminate similar number:
    No numbers remain

    ?????

    Try 0?

    Posted by David H | February 12, 2015, 8:19 PM
    • Wear on the lock could make some of the ranges wider and cause errors. Assuming only one error, either the 26 should be 25.5, or the 6 should be 5.5. So the last number is either 26 or 6.

      Notice the pattern in the numbers. If you arrange the numbers in four row, three numbers in each row, you have one column ending in an integer, one column ending in a fraction, and one mixed column. The last number of the combination should be the only integer in the mixed column. Your mixed column has two integers, so one of the integers must be wrong.

      Posted by Martin Brilliant | February 16, 2015, 1:19 AM
  24. Your “Hint: And in case you forgot …” is not quite correct.

    “Twice past zero turning clockwise” might not be enough. If your combination is (for example) 36-2-8, and you start from 2, that would give you not much more than one full turn. The Master Lock website recommends three turns clockwise.

    “Once past zero to the second number” is not enough either. If you combination is (the same example) 36-2-8, that would give you a small fraction of a turn. The Master Lock website recommends turning past the first number to the second.

    So the “Hint” should be “And in case you forgot, it’s always three turns clockwise (right) to the first number, once past the first number to the second number counter-clockwise (left), and finally clockwise (right again) to the last number.”

    Posted by Martin Brilliant | February 5, 2015, 9:19 AM
  25. Two of my combinations number are 32 and 35 as conveyed to me by my uncle who has given me one such lock. he forgot what is third number and where to put that number. Missing number may be on first position, or may be second or may be last. can you suggest me possible combinations.

    Posted by Pradeep Bokariya | February 4, 2015, 4:56 AM
  26. Further info: The lock is fastened onto a loop of corroded galvanized chain, which reminds me that it’s been used on a boat on salt water. The lock is probably so corroded that the stops don’t work properly, though it might open properly on the right combination. Any hints on how to find the right combination for a corroded lock?

    Posted by Martin Brilliant | February 2, 2015, 6:26 AM
  27. Mike, I have an old Master lock, serial number 900390, and I can’t get started on it. I have nine ranges and three of them are 5 or 6 numbers wide, with no stopping points within them. There must be some missing stop points. Can I calculate them or guess them? Also, many of the stop points are 1/4 of the way between numbers; how do I deal with that?

    Posted by Martin Brilliant | February 1, 2015, 3:44 PM
  28. I need help doing the math on mine. i cant get past the first step which is finding the third number. I do it 3 or 4 times and every time i get 3 as my third number. And 3/4 = .75. HELP Please. Anyone.
    Thank you.

    Posted by walter gresham | January 14, 2015, 6:57 AM
    • Walter, what page are you on?

      Once you have 3 as your third number, Step 3 says you click on the Combination Calculator link and select 3 from the drop down list.

      There is a completely different page that says you divide your last number by 4 but you only use the remainder, which in this case is 3. We don’t do that here.

      Posted by Martin Brilliant | February 1, 2015, 3:37 PM
  29. It worked like a charm! Thanks so much for posting such a clear and cogent set of directions — and the online calculator for generating the combinations!

    Posted by Joshua | January 5, 2015, 5:35 AM
  30. I tried and didn’t work for me. I’m wondering why there are no ‘0’ in the combinations? I know my last number is 38 (or i think so). Is there another lock calculator that helps if you know 2 of the numbers? I feel like there’s a ‘0’ in my 3 digits.

    Any help would be great. thanks!

    Posted by Tiff | December 29, 2014, 11:57 AM
  31. 33 tries and it worked. Amazing.

    Posted by Wes | December 12, 2014, 10:23 AM
  32. Mike, thanks so much for this well-written and extremely helpful post. I had forgotten my combination but was sure I would recognize it if I saw it. Using your Combination Calculator, coupled with the knowledge of the last digit in the combination, I found the complete combination on my first try.

    Posted by Barton S | November 30, 2014, 4:51 PM
  33. it took 49 tries, but it WORKED!!! Thanks!

    Posted by Steam | November 22, 2014, 5:34 AM
  34. I have a lock and I think my last number is 36 can you help?

    Posted by Destiny Perry | August 5, 2014, 12:36 PM
  35. Thank you. I have a Masterlock that has been on my college bike since 1982.

    It took try number 59 out of 64 possibles but it worked.

    Thanks again.

    Posted by Greg | August 3, 2014, 1:40 PM
  36. i’ve tried several times and cannot get it to open. 0.5,4,7.5,11,14,17.5,20.5,24,27.5,30.5,34,37.5

    please help asap

    Posted by Christine | July 6, 2014, 7:54 AM
  37. Many thanks for the excellent material you are producing.

    I do not know what the current Master lock numbers are, but I get from your posts that the standard methods apply to them.

    At the moment, I’m trying to work a combination lock that has only one marking: Made in China. The standard method doesn’t work. I’ve shimmed it open and will look inside with an otoscope to get the slots.

    Posted by William Jordan | July 2, 2014, 1:37 PM
  38. I was hoping it was that simple, but I guess we have our work cut out for us. Can you still get the 800 locks? I’m certain it’s just a simple shift in the algorithm and, based on your note, I can try to increase the increment and generate a new table just for these locks.

    I, too, need to get my hands on one of these.

    Thanks for your info – I didn’t know there was a difference.

    Posted by Mike Molony | July 2, 2014, 12:42 PM
  39. Thanks for the tip, Mike.

    Those don’t do it, though.

    Looking through an old diary entry, I say,”Finally figured out the 800-series locks. The first number can’t be the same as the last, must be 2 off.” That suggests that the standard method, which produces 29-15-29 must be two up on the first number.

    Again, I don’t know because I don’t have another 800 lock to test the theory.

    Posted by William Jordan | July 2, 2014, 7:29 AM
  40. Several years ago I cracked an 800 series Master lock using a method I do not recall. It is not the method I have seen repeatedly on the web and discussed here. The combination is 31 – 15 – 29. Note that the first and last numbers are only two apart. There are no table I can now find that support this combination, yet I cracked it using a method I found on the web. Can anyone find such a table or method for these 800 series lock?

    Also, I have tried first and last numbers one up and one down from the actual combination without success.

    Posted by William Jordan | July 1, 2014, 8:52 AM
    • Have a try at 29 – 15 – 29 or 33 – 15 – 29 and let me know if that works. They are in the same horizontal direction and should be equivalent.

      Posted by Mike Molony | July 2, 2014, 12:51 AM
  41. I have a hardened master lock and I also only had 4 whole numbers but I didn’t think any of them were particularly loose. Am I able to check two different 3rd numbers at once? That is, if I go 15-25-39 can I keep going and give an extra pull on 19 (as the 3rd number)? Does pulling the lock early invalidate the sequence?

    Posted by Martin K. | June 26, 2014, 9:52 PM
    • Hi Martin,
      Yes, you can try more than one last number and not worry that pulling the shackle will reset the process. Let me know if this works for you. I have opened hundreds of locks with this method (end of school year, students leave them on lockers)

      Posted by Mike Molony | June 27, 2014, 12:32 AM
  42. 0 was my last number, So I tried all the variations and no luck. I thought I did something wrong, Tried again with 12 as my last number. no luck. Went back to 0 again, lock opened in 26 tries. Must have messed up my first attempt. Thank you.

    Posted by Brian B | May 13, 2014, 8:59 AM
  43. Found an old Master Combo lock in a drawer and thought I would go online and try to crack it.
    Took me about 50 or so tries with the combination output sheet, but I finally got it!
    Mucho Thanks!

    Posted by Matto | April 7, 2014, 6:36 PM
  44. I will be overjoyed if this works.

    Posted by Justin Chung | February 18, 2014, 4:05 PM
  45. Un-f*ing-believable! once I saw the list, I was able to pick out the right combo from memory. Open in a single try! Now I don’t need a new lock. thank you!!

    Posted by Liz | February 2, 2014, 12:54 PM
  46. I have tried this method several times , I always get 26 as the last number . I have tried every combo on the chart. But none seem to be the right one. I have checked and re checked but it does not seem to work for me.

    Numbers are : 2.5, 5.5 , 9, 12.5, 15.5, 19, 22.5, 26, 29, 32,5 , 35.5, 39

    Thank you

    Posted by Zoe | January 26, 2014, 10:13 AM
  47. We bought a 2-pack with identical combination. We then proceeded to lose the combination. Hence my presence here.

    I’m unable to retrieve it as both lock have different sticky points:

    39, 35.5, 32.5, 29, 25.5, 22, 18.5/19, 15.5, 12.5, 9, 5.5, 2.5

    On this one, I tried 18 and 22 as the last number. Failed.

    36.5, 38, 30, 26.5, 23, 19.5, 16.5, 13.5?, 10, 6.5, 3.5, 0

    On this one, I tried and 23 and 38 as the last number. Failed again.

    The serial number are still sticked to the locks: 1500-05902.

    Posted by Martin Thomas | October 26, 2013, 9:18 AM
  48. Worked like a charm!
    Thanks!!!!

    Posted by Ed | August 28, 2013, 3:09 AM
  49. Help. I get five numbers: 9,16,19,36. What is my third number? Or what am I doing wrong?

    Posted by Kim | August 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
  50. I have ran the possible combinations 4x, and double checked them the calculator. I still cannot get it open. Help!

    Posted by Angela Jacobson | August 5, 2013, 8:56 PM
  51. I started on another site and could not figure out what the last number was. I kept getting 3 numbers ending in 9 and 2 numbers ending in 6 (39, 35.5, 32.5, 29, 25.5, 22.5, 19, 16, 12.5, 9.5, 6, 2.5). I read thru the posts and found 2 answers that helped:
    1. Find the number with a little more range of motion than the rest. Normal range of motion was always really close to 1 except for number 6, which was between 5.5 and 7.
    2. I tried counter clockwise just to verify, same result, 5.5 to 7.
    I used the calculator specified on this site, and verified it against another at http://www.gliderspen.net/cgi-bin/masterlock.cgi, my combination was on both.

    Posted by Dave | July 21, 2013, 12:29 PM
  52. I had a similar problem. I kept trying but couldn’t get it until someone suggested turning the dial counter-clockwise. It worked like a charm.

    Good Luck, hope this helps you.

    Posted by Jason | July 20, 2013, 4:16 PM
  53. After reading other comments it seems a few other people have the same problem I have. My numbers are 2.5,6,9,12.5,16,19,22.5,26,29, 32.5,36 and 39. I’ve used this method on other locks and it worked but I can’t figure this one out. Anyone else figure this out?

    Posted by Jeff | July 20, 2013, 1:55 AM
    • 6 was my third number. After checking the numbers again I realized that the range of motion was slightly greater at 6 than at 16, 26, and 36. If anyone else is having the same problem check your numbers again if one of the four #’s ending in 6 or the four #’s ending in 9 move slightly more to the left or right than the other three #’s this could be your third number. You really have to look close because there was only a very little difference in my case. Worst case scenario try all 8 whole numbers as your third number. This could take some time though. I also read somewhere that you can eliminate two out the ten second numbers (2 numbers above and 2 numbers below whatever your 3rd number is). This narrows down the posible combinations from 100 to 80. I hope this helps.

      Posted by Jeff | July 20, 2013, 6:49 PM
      • Thanks for the feedback Jeff, this will help others find a solution.

        Posted by Jason | July 20, 2013, 7:30 PM
  54. After the last number is found, there should be 10 possible choices for the first number and 10 for the 2nd. That would yield 100 possible combinations. How did you wittle it down to 8 x 8 = 64? Thank you.

    Posted by Stan | June 28, 2013, 6:40 AM
  55. Can’t believe this worked. I went through the process of finding the 12 numbers a few times just to make sure there were no descrepincies and BOOM… Got my lock undone. Who ever developed this and the calculated… Hats off, and a huge thank you.

    Posted by Mike | June 12, 2013, 6:37 AM
  56. My number: 38, 35,31.5,28,24.5,21.5,18,14.5,11.5,8,4.5,1.5
    Clearly, my last number is 35, but I tried all combination, not anyone works. Need urgent help please!

    Posted by Jacky | June 4, 2013, 10:15 PM
    • Hi Jacky,
      You may want to try running the calculator for the last number as 34 and if that doesn’t work try 36. This has worked for me with the newer locks. Good luck!

      Posted by Mike | June 5, 2013, 1:10 AM
  57. I have an old lock that I’ve not used in some time. The only number that I vaguely remembered being in the combo was 35. After I figured out the last number and put it into the calculator, I tried the first few in the list and then went straight to the ones with 35. I found the combo within six tries! It’s unbelievable that this actually works. Thanks for the clear instructions on how to recover the combo.

    Posted by Mark | June 2, 2013, 3:16 PM
  58. AWESOME!!!! now to find all those old locks. LOL

    Posted by Lu | June 1, 2013, 9:55 AM
  59. I had a Masterlock that I took from my brother when he came home from Navy boot camp in 1964. I’ve kept it all these years and I never knew what the combo was. Using this method, I got it open in 10 minutes. I should have started on the other end of the page, there were only 5 combinations left when I hit the right one.

    Posted by Brady | May 14, 2013, 11:29 AM
  60. Hi, can you please help me with this, I believe I have a unique situation here. At the end I get numbers 6, 16, 26, 36. Which one is the number I should choose?

    Posted by JoPrez | April 25, 2013, 3:32 AM
  61. I KNOW THE FIRST AND LAST NUMBER WHICH ARE BOTH 27. HOW DO I FIND THE MIDDLE NUMBER. NOT A MATH WIZ. I DO KNOW IT’S NOT FAR FROM THE 27, BUT I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER IT. THANKS.

    Posted by StarBird | March 2, 2013, 7:48 PM
  62. What is the algorithm in your calculator?

    How are you determining the first two number possibilities?

    Posted by Calvin | March 2, 2013, 2:37 PM
  63. Found a lock in my closet, haven’t used it in YEARS….used your system….within 1 hour I was able to pop the lock open…Pretty cool!

    Posted by JW | September 13, 2012, 12:58 PM
  64. i need more locked locks.

    Posted by zillfat | February 17, 2012, 2:58 PM
  65. hot damn it works
    took me a while

    Posted by zillfat | February 17, 2012, 2:46 PM
  66. Mines not working… any extra tips? how many tries does it typically take?

    Posted by Itsss nott workng :( | February 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
  67. You sir are a genius…got it to work in 15 trie

    Posted by Frustrated Guy | February 9, 2012, 7:33 AM
  68. I have actually tried this method twice, but I can’t seem to tell if the first set of numbers is a .5 or not. I give up. The lock is an old pink/purple masterlock. 😕

    Posted by Tim | December 14, 2011, 10:11 PM
  69. i have tried to find the ending number 5 times by they all end in 2.5, 6, or 9 what am i doing wrong?

    Posted by frustrated | December 12, 2011, 6:54 PM
  70. The numbers it gave me were
    37,34.5,31,27.5,24.5,20,17.5,14.5,10,7,4.5,0

    So this should mean that it ends in 31 right?

    Posted by Josh | December 10, 2011, 10:48 PM
  71. That is the most AWESOME thing. Thanks!

    Posted by Nina | November 12, 2011, 6:55 AM
  72. Beautiful! Worked like a charm! Thanks!

    Posted by Mike | November 8, 2011, 3:05 PM
  73. i have been trying this method for my lock, but for the first step, the whole numbers left all end in either 6 or 9. what am i doing wrong?

    Posted by amy | October 19, 2011, 1:48 PM
    • Two points. Make sure you’re turning the dial clockwise and try try to apply a little less tension on the lock. It sounds like the 6 and 9 ending numbers can be ignored.

      Hope this helps!

      Posted by Greg | October 19, 2011, 9:55 PM
  74. Worked great. Thanks for the technique and the combination calculator.

    Posted by John | September 30, 2011, 8:32 PM
  75. This works. Very cool!

    Posted by m | September 7, 2011, 7:22 PM
  76. This is so cool! My new school locker had a lock on it already and I was able to remove it and put on my lock using your technique. The custodian was amazed and said he will use this all the time instead of cutting off a lock. Thanks!!!!

    Posted by Critter | September 1, 2011, 10:55 AM
  77. Fantastic! I have a lock I hadn’t used for a couple of years and couldn’t remember the combination for the life of me. Once I figured out the last number and looked at the possibilities, the combination jumped right out at me!

    Posted by Angie | August 31, 2011, 4:21 AM
  78. For some reason I get 4 whole numbers and 8 fractions. Is that possible?

    Posted by Confused | August 29, 2011, 9:44 AM
  79. It worked!! Thank you so much!! I’ve been racking my brain for weeks on the combo to this lock…

    Posted by C | August 27, 2011, 3:14 PM
  80. Awesome worked for me thanks

    Posted by ONE | August 24, 2011, 9:37 PM
  81. My combination is 31-36-9.
    If I were to try this method it would be impossible to find the combination to my lock

    Posted by venus | August 24, 2011, 12:08 PM
  82. This is a great resource! Worked first time – saved me $10 for a new lock – Thanks!

    Posted by crlf | August 19, 2011, 2:11 PM
    • This method does work; however, the 3rd bullet in step 1 should say, “. . . If, on the other hand, the range is in the middle of two numbers say 20.5-21.5, then record 21!, not 20, because 21 is the middle of this range.” Otherwise your whole numbers will always be one number too low! This worked for me . . .

      Posted by NLeone | January 21, 2013, 5:15 AM
  83. I did it, too on a 900 series. I had that thing for over 35 years since high school. In fact I have 2. One I had the combo for and the other I just cracked. Once I had the list of possible combos, I tried several of the last ones. Then a few I sort of recalled. Then I guessed another and it opened. The last number is NOT the one I always recalled but the method (after doing like 5 times) told me it had to be it. It work. Now I am going to try it on any others I may find or pick up at the swap meet or garage sale. I actually have a use for these things, too. Yes you can crack but seriously you have to be really after my yard tools to do it! THANKS!

    Posted by Walt | August 10, 2011, 12:22 PM
  84. Hi Mike,

    I like your information on locks.

    I also have some information on master combination locks.

    I have a video at:
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/862947/find_forgotten_combo/

    You can easily get the combination to a lock (if it is open already).

    To get it open, you can make a shim from a soda can.

    Scott

    Posted by Scott Murphy | July 16, 2011, 4:09 PM
  85. I just opened a lock I used on a high school locker 6 years ago- it’s great!

    However, at the bottom of the article is the note about moving past 0 for each number; this is somewhat incorrect. The number to pass is not necessarily 0, but the next number in the sequence. For instance 26-04-14, to go correctly from 26 to 4, I pass 0 twice and 4 once, stopping the second time around. Then passing 0 once and stopping on 14 for the final number.

    Posted by mj | May 30, 2011, 10:48 AM
  86. Another interesting characteristic of Master Locks….

    Each lock has TWO combinations — they are different and determined by which direction one turns the dial to start the process. Sometimes the alternate combination only has two numbers.

    Posted by nate | March 2, 2011, 4:30 PM
  87. well, it may have worked for you, but i only got the first two digits, leaving me with so many others, oh well, i guess i got work to do…

    Posted by xpert | February 20, 2011, 11:20 AM
    • Some times the sticking points for finding the 3rd number are not exactly on top of a number or between two numbers. In this case:
      1. turn clockwise (right) the first of the 12 sticking points from 0
      2. continue to turn clockwise to the opposite side of the dial
      3. turn counterclockwise (left) back to the first sticking point from 0
      4. pull up on the lock and turn the dial left and right in the small sticking area and write down the exact range. (e.g. 2.75-3.5)
      5. repeat this 4 more times for the numbers 10 more from each other. (e.g. 3, 13, 23, 33)
      6. now do steps 1-5 for the second sticking point past zero
      7. do the steps again for the third point past zero.

      Posted by Mike | February 20, 2011, 1:41 PM
  88. Got it in the FIRST tried it worked! 🙂 and i hadn’t used my lock in almost a year i had no idea what the combination was

    Posted by Jolly | January 14, 2011, 1:11 PM
  89. I just tried this on a Sphero serial 8000xxx, and none of the combinations worked. My last number is 37. At first, on my first try with 1-3-37, the shackle popped open, but ever since, I haven’t been able to open it with any of the other combos. Any ideas?

    Posted by Nathan | December 7, 2010, 12:20 AM
  90. Tried on on a Hardened Masterlock serial 911*** and it worked just dandy. Takes a bit to figure out the whole tension / wiggle technique so you get the right numbers but it worked for me.

    Posted by Mike | November 30, 2010, 5:09 PM
  91. The problem that some of you may be having with the hardened locks is that Masterlock changed their tumbler design for a lot of the locks that have serial numbers beginning with 800. If you check the wikihow article on how to crack a combo lock, it gives some tips as to what might be going wrong if this applies to your lock.

    Posted by SamRaven2 | November 22, 2010, 5:52 AM
  92. Nice. Got it on the 13th attempt. (I worked the possible combinations list backwards) The hardest step was finding the stopping points. I’ve tried this on 2 other locks now, that I did know the combination to, and it worked. Thanks.

    Posted by Greg | November 3, 2010, 2:36 AM
  93. Thank you so much. Because of this, I was able to open my High School lock from ’91 and give it to my daughter to use for one of her school lockers!

    Posted by Mike Pflugfelder | October 5, 2010, 6:47 PM
  94. I got twelve numbers, but five are .5s and seven are whole. All the .5s end in the same number except for one, which, using the method described above for the .5s instead of the whole numbers would give me a last number of 1.5. That doesn’t work with the math unless I treat it as either a two or a one, and that leaves me with twice as many combinations to try. Any other options?

    Posted by shoelace203 | August 13, 2010, 6:46 PM
    • UPDATE: I exhausted all possibilities for 1 and 2 as the third number with no luck. 8.5 is the loosest of the stopping points, but, once again, I’ve got a fraction instead of a whole number. I guess I’ll try 8 and 9 but I’m wondering if I read the stopping points as the wrong numbers.

      Posted by shoelace203 | August 14, 2010, 10:51 PM
  95. Thanks, this worked great. I got the list of 64 combos and recognized what the combo was. So I got it on the first try. 🙂 Lucky me!!

    Posted by Rick Davis | July 14, 2010, 8:26 AM
  96. got lucky! 1st try woohoo!!! yyeaahh! i tried soo many sites but this is the only 1 that worked 4 me i think it is great!!!!and now i dont have to blow a ton of money (well kind of a ton) on a new lock! you go girl (or guy, idk) 🙂

    Posted by Hotshot | July 13, 2010, 6:58 PM
  97. Wow … it really works. I have a master lock from high school sitting around in a toolbox for 25 year. I mixed some of the number up the first time, but got it straight the second time and found the last number was ‘8’ … printed out the list of possible combinations … picked a column that looked right and bingo! opened up on the very first try. Amazing. Thanks!

    Posted by Will | July 4, 2010, 3:04 PM
  98. Doesn’t work for me. I get six .5’s and six whole numbers:
    39, 36, 29, 19, 16, 9. Four 9’s and two 6’s. Any ideas?

    Posted by Branden Wolner | June 29, 2010, 1:40 PM
    • OK. So I had four 9’s and 2 6’s. I picked one of the two 6’s and started there. Sure enough, it was the correct final number and I got the lock open. I guess if I had tried all 64 I would have then tried the other 6 as the final number.

      So, FYI for others who have this problem. Try both of the two “unique” ending numbers.

      Posted by Branden Wolner | June 29, 2010, 2:13 PM
  99. Awesome! Masterlock’s web site wants you to fill out a form, photocopy your lock, get the form Notarized, and mail it in for a 4-6 week turnaround. I’ve had this lock for years and finally lost the little code sticker that came with it. I had a vague memory of the code, and that the first and third numbers were similar. I ran through the dial twice to get the list of possible numbers, found the most likely last number (I ended up with 4 and relied on my memory), and got it open on the first try. THANK YOU!!! Now, do I bother using this for the lockerroom because it was so easy to crack? …yea… My clothes aren’t that valuable! woo hoo!

    Posted by very pleased | June 27, 2010, 2:54 PM
  100. Does this work for built in locks with numbers from 0-49 instead of 0-39

    Posted by matt | June 20, 2010, 8:49 AM
  101. Not sure what to do. I had 2 locks that I bought at the same time, and their serials are close together. I was able to use this method to open one, but there’s no clear solution to the other. I’ve gone over the sticking points about 6 times.

    1.5, 4.5, 8, 11.5, 14.5, 18, 21.5, 24.5, 28, 31.5, 34.5, 38

    That makes only 4 whole-numbers (8, 18, 28, 38).

    Any ideas??

    Posted by John T | June 11, 2010, 11:06 AM
    • I had the same problem. What seemed to make sense, was that the “sloppiest” whole number was the ending number. If you don’f feel like testing all of them again, then write down the ranges instead of the average each time. My last turned out to be 6, with a range of 5 – 7. Whereas the other whole numbers had ranges of 35.5 – 36.5. Hope that helps!

      Posted by Matt | August 12, 2011, 11:32 PM
  102. I originally learned this back in 1964. It was shown to be by an Eighth grader. He could actually open one in less than 10 seconds is looking at the lock and about 30 seconds behind his back. I since forgot quite how to do it so I decided to look online and here it was. There is another way to crack the lock if the lock is not on something and that is throw it down hard on its shackle, it sometimes will snap open. This does not destroy the lock, but you still wont have the combo.

    Posted by J | April 3, 2010, 3:42 PM
  103. I only get 10 sticking point ranges on an American lock. 4, 12, 36 are the only whole numbers. It seems like this should be an easier algorithm, no? Any ideas?

    Posted by ERic | April 3, 2010, 2:49 PM
  104. Totally Works… had 2 locks collecting dust for over 5 years in my drawer and finally founds their combination with this trick… thanks a lot!

    Posted by Mike Gaum | March 31, 2010, 7:48 PM
  105. It didn’t work on my MasterLock model 1504 (purchased on 2009). Apparently this model uses another algorithm

    Posted by Zeva | March 4, 2010, 7:19 AM
  106. This was amazing. After looking at the possible combinations, I got it in one try!

    Posted by Petey | February 28, 2010, 12:32 PM
  107. You Rock!

    This helped me solve a pad lock my dad forgot the code to in boot camp 19 years Ago!

    Posted by Jake Self | February 27, 2010, 12:20 AM
  108. I have tried this about 30 times. I also have had other people try it. We all come up with the same numbers. 0, 3.5, 6.5, 10, 13.5, 16.5, 20, 23.5, 26.5, 30, 34.5, 36.5. I can only get 4 whole numbers and they all have the same last digit. Any suggestions on how to get the combination?

    Posted by Rachel Brogdon | February 22, 2010, 7:12 PM
  109. Thank you. Thank You. THANK YOU! I recovered the combination to a Master Lock lock that I have owned since high school (I’m now a grandfather), but could not open.

    Posted by Darden Cavalcade | February 21, 2010, 1:03 PM
  110. Thanks to all of you for your posts. My lock had 8 fractional and 4 whole numbers. After trying the fractionals as possible last numbers, I re-read the posts more closely. I looked for the loosest whole number which was the first 8 in the series of 8s. I also noticed through all this trial and error, when the shackle was pulled up, my lock would click (hit metal) consistently clockwise on 14 and counterclockwise on 12. For kicks, I went through the combos with 14 as the middle number and found the combo of 32-14-8. For anyone looking for serial number 905460, this is the combo.

    Posted by I got It! | January 19, 2010, 10:06 PM
  111. Thank you so much for this post! I just cracked a combo for a lock that’s been stuck on a bag for 5 years!!

    Posted by Kimberley Foreman | January 18, 2010, 12:06 PM
  112. I have a very old Master lock for a gym (the kind with a key slot in back and the combo dial on the front).

    My stepbrother would go around the school on the last couple of days and collect up all of these locks, from trashcans, from open lockers, you know what a jr. high school looks like at the end of the year.

    For fun, he would just go through the combos from the start 0-0-0 and find the combo. He got good at it, I mean REALLY good he could pick up a cold lock and in 5 to 10 minutes it was open. I think his brain got the algorithm in his head.

    At any rate, he always had a box of locks if anyone needed one. He gave me one and it has been really beat up, dented, misused, and abused. The combination for it is 0-10-0.

    I had forgotten the combo. So I tried the long way and it wouldn’t give five whole numbers, it always gives six, after playing around with it for the weekend I still can’t open it, should I just junk it or is there a trick of some sort? I got the lock in 1973. It don’t owe me now’t, but I don’t want to throw something away if it will work.

    Posted by Jay | January 17, 2010, 11:08 PM
  113. To clarify for the readers and what worked for me. The fractional numbers are the important numbers. Average the 5 fractional numbers. Once averaged, 4 of the 5 numbers will end with the same number. The one that is different is the last number of the combination lock. Then use the calculator.

    Posted by Trinopolyz | January 15, 2010, 5:25 PM
  114. Wow. Just cracked the combo for 2 locks that were in cold storage. Thanks so much.

    Posted by Mark | December 13, 2009, 6:04 PM
  115. This is way cool. I had a little trouble getting the feel of determining the last number. I had a false positive of the four numbers with the same last digit, which cost me some time. Then realized that I was had turned the dial counter-clockwise rather than clockwise to find the third number. I recall seeing another website that said clockwise, but it doesn’t matter. Just make sure that you turn the dial counter-clockwise to find the last number.

    Now that I’ve recovered my combo, it occurs to me that my lock is still as useless as it was when it was locked without the combo as are all my other Master combo locks. Anyone can crack these locks, so what’s the point of using them to secure anything of value.

    Has anyone seen a response from Master Lock regarding this flawed design. I didn’t see anything on their website. What a disappointment. I’ll never buy one of these locks again.

    Posted by Yul | November 21, 2009, 7:45 PM
  116. I’ve been trying to figure out my combo for two days by doing this method with my own math. Finally I found your chart and I got it open! (Of course my combo was the second to last on the list…) Needless to say I have sore fingers.

    Posted by faith | November 3, 2009, 6:21 PM
  117. The computer calculated combination sets generated for “last number” 29 do not give the combination 15 20 29- which is what my 800XXXX MASTER is??? Luckily I found the original leaflet and combination that came with my lock!! (after going aroundandaroundandaround…)

    Posted by 5n0wf1ak3 | October 27, 2009, 11:48 PM
    • My guess is the last number of 28 will open this lock. When the last number is odd I always take the lower even number to make this work.

      You have brought up a good point concerning ending odd numbers and I will investigate further.

      Posted by Mike | October 28, 2009, 12:50 PM
      • This method worked great for the first lock I tried but the second lock have a last odd number and I am having no luck. I tried all the combo’s on the chart twice and then read your post. I rounded down to 30 from 31 and recalculated the chart and tried all those numbers with no luck. A couple of questions:
        1) do you mean to round down and then recalculate the chart? or calculate the chart with the odd last number and then round down just that number from each of the chart numbers?
        2) When spinning the combo, pass 0 twice first spin clockwise, pass 0 once counter-clockwise second turn.
        I had a line of combo’s from the chart with 0 in the middle. I tried both landing on 0 the second turn and passing zero twice and landing on the third zero. Which is correct?

        Thanks for the great info!!

        Posted by amden | December 21, 2009, 12:49 PM
  118. There’s also a new iPhone App ‘LockGenie’ which helps with this and gives you extra mobility.
    http://itunes.com/apps/lockgenie

    Posted by Josh Kessler | October 27, 2009, 3:29 AM
  119. Didn’t work for me but will try again.

    Posted by LockedUp | October 25, 2009, 1:37 PM
  120. I can’t believe that it actually worked. When the shackle came unlocked, I sat there staring at it in disbelief. So I tried it again and it worked. thanks a lot again. I will be referring back to this site for all my master lock combination needs. Oh, and by the way, it does work for hardened locks.

    Posted by THNKS | October 22, 2009, 7:58 AM
  121. c0rm3n put it best when asking:

    “what is the algo used to eliminate the band of numbers going diagonally?”

    Posted by c0rm3n | August 27, 2009, 11:44 pm

    I’m not into reading code (and not for lack of trying. Specifically the source you provided.)

    The “long” method popularized on all the other websites instructs composing the list of 100 possible first and middle numbers. In the field, I’ve tried a few that I suspected couldn’t work after trying them because of the awkward placement of certain number pairs and the mechanical feeling that the dial “went too far in the other direction.”

    What is the layman’s-written-out-in-plain-language mathematical process for narrowing down this list to 72 as I understand it to do? What is the criteria for eliminating some of the numbers off the bloated “100 list?”

    By the way, awesome site and helpful contribution!

    Posted by tester | October 16, 2009, 7:59 PM
  122. It was very hard for me to get the last number but I did find my combination. THANK YOU!!

    Posted by jmaya | October 8, 2009, 6:47 PM
  123. It works. Most of my numbers stop between numbers, not on a number. So it was a little tricky. The last number for me, which is 6, actually stopped between 5 and 7. I did remember my combination had a 6 or a 2 in it so it took me only 3 tries to figure out from there.

    Posted by Rina | October 5, 2009, 6:46 AM
  124. In responce to hardened lock question ..I had a hardened lock that this method didn’t work for because all of my whole numbers ended in 4. I looked for the loosest one and began trying on them and it did open. So look for the loosest whole number to get your last number.

    Posted by No Profile | September 21, 2009, 7:00 PM
    • ^^ FTW! I had 4 0’s and no other whole numbers, the loosest one was the third number.

      Posted by Hardened lock | October 8, 2009, 10:00 AM
    • Wow, I wish I’d read this earlier. I convinced myself that a couple of the half numbers were possibly whole… now my hands are numb from all the futility, but at least I’ve got it!

      Huh, my last number was also 30.

      Posted by David | December 5, 2010, 9:09 PM
    • I love you so much right now. I had 4 whole numbers, and 8 half numbers. I was trying to figure out which of my halves was wrong for soooo long before I saw your comment. I have a hardened lock also. Btw, my last and loosest number was also 30.

      Posted by Grateful | January 20, 2011, 9:31 PM
  125. thank you very much for this, I’ve been trying for hours to figure my combination out when I finally decided to look up help. surprisingly enough, the combination was the first on the chart (:

    Posted by Jostie | September 9, 2009, 2:39 AM
  126. what is the algo used to eliminate the band of numbers going diagonally?

    Posted by c0rm3n | August 27, 2009, 11:44 PM
    • The mechanics of these locks are sloppy enough that adjacent numbers are valid combinations. For example, a combination of 9-27-12 is the same as 10-27-12.

      I have posted the source code for your perusal. Does this answer your question?

      Source code in PHP

      Posted by Mike | August 29, 2009, 2:46 AM
    • “what is the algo used to eliminate the band of numbers going diagonally?”

      Posted by c0rm3n | August 27, 2009, 11:44 pm

      What happens is that sequential numbers which are close together are eliminated. This is because the design of these combo locks gives fairly large tolerances when entering a combination. It seems to be plus or minus 1 number giving you a range of about 3. Because of this, the possible combinations cannot contain sequential numbers that are only 2 values apart.

      A combination of 10-12-26 would be invalid because once you enter the 10, the 12 will just fall into place, making the entry of the combination very awkward and difficult.

      A combination of 10-32-34 would also be invalid for the same reason, even though the two numbers that are too close are the second and third. This flaw exist across the entire combination.

      The algo that eliminates the diagonal numbers simply looks at the first two numbers in the combination and if they are only two numbers apart, that combination is eliminated.

      This is the same reason why there is a horizontal band of numbers missing. All of those combinations had second and third numbers that were only 2 numbers apart, and thus were invalid combinations.

      Posted by Tyler Roussos | October 18, 2009, 10:20 PM
    • Here’s exactly how those other numbers are eliminated. There are two rules that cut the possible combos from 100 to 64:

      Rule 1: The second number cannot be 2 more or 2 less than the third number.

      Ex: Combos that wouldn’t work:
      2-36-34 | 36 is 2 more than 34.
      2-32-34 | 32 is 2 less than 34.
      22-0-38 | 0 is 2 “more” than 38.
      22-0-2 | 0 is 2 less than 2.

      Rule 2: The first number cannot be 2 or 6 more than the second number.

      Ex: Combos that wouldn’t work:
      18-16-34 | 18 is 2 more than 16
      18-12-34 | 18 is 6 more than 12
      0-38-4 | 0 is 2 “more” than 38
      0-34-4 | 0 is 6 “more” than 34

      Keep in mind, those zeros are can be sneaky little bastards! Remember that you’re dealing with a wheel here.

      If you follow these rules, you can crack the combo without a computer! You may need some extra paper though, at least if you’re like me and need to write all the combos out. 😀

      Posted by Chuckles | June 8, 2010, 2:26 PM
  127. Doesn’t work for Hardened locks. How about a tutorial for them?

    Posted by secret agent girl | July 28, 2009, 5:14 AM
  128. Worked for me, too! you don’t have to do all that stuff for the last number; pull down hard and turn; dial will lock up firm on the last number. Then go to Calculator. Start with the more likely groups (different first and last numbers. I did it in 19 trys. 🙂

    Posted by Ro Efa | July 21, 2009, 7:42 PM
    • Please not that two of the numbers can be the same. I read on various website that this is not the case and it was giving up on cracking my old lock, but thought I’ll give it a try and my combination turned out to be 26-32-26.

      Posted by Anna | August 16, 2011, 1:32 PM
  129. Worked for me:-)

    Posted by Random Electron | July 5, 2009, 1:31 PM
  130. This is great. I’m going to try this. I have a lock that I lost the combination for, although I remember one (maybe even two) of the numbers. This will help me to be able to get the combo quickly.

    Posted by imshakinmyhead | June 16, 2009, 10:53 PM
  131. Clearly there is a hidden culture that frequents web sites like this. Now you two have joined that culture. Linda, what have you done?

    Posted by Russ B | June 12, 2009, 7:08 AM
  132. This is a brilliant site, to be sure, but now it’s clear who stole Pee Wee’s bike.

    Come to think of it, I’m missing some underwear from my locker at the gym. You wouldn’t happen to know the whereabouts of a certain black lace thong, would you?

    Posted by Vegas Linda Lou | June 10, 2009, 7:29 AM
    • When I was a young teen, I bought a 3 speed bike with my own money. While at ta park, I locked it to a tree. When I returned, the lock was gone, but the bike was still there. I thought it was some wise ass kid that did it, now I know that it was a brillant adult like you practicing. Thanks for clearing that up! I am going to send my son to this site!

      Posted by Lori Biker | June 11, 2009, 10:48 AM
    • Once said, “knowledge is a form of power” but really this upsets you? A theif will take a hammer & smash part of the lock or use a cloth, well… Thank you, now I can use that old lock I have again. Something about keeping honest people, honest. Ching Chow..

      Posted by Rude Awakening | July 25, 2009, 9:34 PM

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